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Proof of God 61 Revelation 8 1-2 The Seventh Seal
Interpreting the Bible
The key to understanding Revelation comes in chapter 1: 19. Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

This is the key to all prophecy. God is unchanging, the God who threw Adam out of Eden, is the God who brought the Babylonians down upon the Israelites, is the God who brought Jesus into the world, is the God who had Jesus crucified, He is unchanging. The God of 4,000 years ago is the God of today, and He will be the same God 4,000 years from today. The souls that God is dealing with, are in a constant state of change, because of their interaction with God in their every day lives. God had to do what He did 4,000 years ago to make this world a better place to live. He had to do the same things 2,000 years ago for the same reason. He is still working hard at completing His work in a detailed effort to make this world a perfect place to live, and He will not give up. This heaven is where we will spend eternity. Which is explained in the last chapters of Revelation.
If someone who has seen God face to face and has the wisdom to understand what they are seeing, by simply writing what they have seen, they are writing the future, and this is so proven in Revelation, because almost every generation since its writing, has been convinced that they were living in the times mentioned in Revelation, and they were, they were a 100% accurate. They just did not understand that it is a continuing process until every soul that can be saved, is saved. God is not willing that any should be lost, but many will be lost, because even after seeing God face to face, they will not accept Him.

Revelation 8: 1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

Here in chapter 8, Jesus is in the presence of the original 24 Angels who united to create the one God and has, for the first time, been given access to the scroll of His lives. Here Jesus opens the seventh seal, which represents the first life of His soul at the end of Abraham’s life Those souls began coming out for their first view of earth as humans, in thousands of years. While the seal was put in place at the end of Abraham’s life, it applies to the past 4,000 years because of the amount of time required to cleanse and purify a soul and the billions of souls who were in need of cleansing. At this point in time, all the souls who were thrown into the pit have had at least their first time on earth since the flood. Almost all have had three lives or more.

2. And I saw the seven angels, which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.

There are 2 Hebrew words for trumpet Strong’s #2689 pronounced chatsotserah. Strong gives it a meaning of, “sundered or quavering note.” The original meaning is “keep, beautiful, again, creating, here.” The second is Strong’s #3104 pronounced yowbel, Strong gives it a meaning of “the blast of a horn,” the original meaning was, “life starts a woman, to drink” which would reference a horn announcing a marriage. The Hebrew word for #7782, showphar, which was a ram’s horn, Strong gives it a meaning of; “incising a clear sound, a coronet”. The original meaning is, “to return, to begin, purifying, creation.” Just as the blowing of a trumpet or showphar was to signal the soldiers of the Children of Israel to advance upon their enemy and remove the evil hordes from their land, also the trumpet was blown to call the sinners to the Temple to offer sacrifice and be forgiven for their sins. They were also used to announce a marriage. John is using it here to signal the coming of a cleansing woe to try evil souls and cleanse them of their sins. There were seven woes or trumpets to face upon their release from the bottomless pit.

Revelation 7 13 –17
The book is called the Revelation of Jesus, because that is what it is about, and taking parts of two chapters out to deal with is impossible unless they are taken from my commentary of the whole book, which is what I have done here. And since they are taken this way, I will attempt to fill in missing information, where necessary.

13. And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and from where did they come?
14. And I said unto him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
The “great tribulation” is Justification and it has nothing to do with a “seven year period” after the “Rapture.” The “great tribulation” is what God uses to find the normal human’s “desire to sin.” Once God finds it, He destroys it, and replaces it with good, love, forgiveness, and compassion, and when every last bit has been found, That soul is sanctified, remade into the perfect image of Jesus, and becomes His brother or sister in the Kingdom of God.
Most historical scholars believe this refers to those who were being persecuted by the ruling authority at the turn of the first century. But it looks beyond the first century into modern day Chad, Sudan, China, etc. The point is that there is a purpose behind the judgment and persecution. Those who go through it will find themselves face to face with God to be rewarded with love and acceptance most who write about Revelation don’t understand that all of our troubles, come from God, in His search for evil in our world, so that He can destroy it so it will never happen again, at least from that same soul..

15. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sits on the throne shall dwell among them.

Most scripture commentators, never touch on God among us, then they have no knowledge of the millions of angels walking among us, so they are totally clueless in dealing with the subject.
It is easy to create this picture by placing God upon a throne, and considering the concept that people had of “one” God, then He could only be sitting on “one” throne, in “one” place. But God is not that easy to position.
How many “Ford Motor Companies are there? Simple “one.”
How many IBMs are there? Simple “one.”
How many GEs are there? Simple “one.”
However each “one” has thousands of buildings and thousands of employees that make up those “one” companies.
They are good parables for God. There are billions of living angels who are tied together into one God through the Holy Spirit. They cover the entire world, sometimes serving, sometimes being served. It is impossible to be anywhere on this planet and not be close to an angel of God who represents the “one” living God. If you are chosen to see God “face to face.” The face of God that you see will be different from the “face of God” that will be revealed to the next person so chosen. Another amazing thing is that the face of the angel you see will also be the face of Jesus, because that angel was remade into the spitting image of Jesus. God looks on the inside, not the outside.
The second coming of Jesus is a personal, one on one experience. We are told in Revelation 1, that “every eye will see Him,” and they will, but not at the same moment in time, because the “second coming” is a personal, one on one experience. They will rise one morning, go to the bathroom and Jesus will be looking back at them from their own bathroom mirror, because God will have turned them into a perfect spiritual image of Jesus, in their heart. They will know it’s coming long before it happens, because this is not something that happens in the “wink of an eye.” It takes decades, as well as centuries. What happens in the “wink of an eye” is the realization that God is listening to your thoughts, which is what the word “Amen” means.

16. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

Those who are in Sheol which is the Hebrew word usually translated as “the grave,” or “hell” it refers to souls who are in the spiritual realm, they have no need of food, nor water, they feel no sun light nor its heat. However, as the 23rd Psalm says, “ yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,” death is but a shadow. It is not a permanent state of nonbeing. We reside in Sheol temporarily, until God finds us a new family, for us to reside in, and resurrects us into His service. We will not hunger and thirst, because we will then be part of the “body of God,” knowing (not just believing) that God will take care of us, through every day, and in every way.

17. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Tears are a human body function, not found in the spirit world. The living fountains of water represents God’s ability to reverse the process by which He removes a soul from an earthly body and returns the parts of it He needs, a little at a time, into the baby of His choosing, just as He did with the soul of Elijah by putting it into the baby who became John the Baptist. John did not know he was Elijah, but Jesus did. Matt 11:12-14, Mk 9:11-13. Once everyone has been spiritually remade into perfect spiritual images of Jesus, there will be no more tears, for God will have taken away all the trials and tests from our lives, which are what brings on the tears. Death will be no more, because we will know we are going to live forever.
The book is called “the Revelation of Jesus,” because that is what it is about. It reveals seven lives of the soul of Jesus, before He became Jesus.

Revelation 7: 1. And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

It is amazing to me that people do not believe that an all powerful God, does not, and cannot control the weather. Jesus called upon God to calm the storm and it ceased. Elijah called on the Lord to withhold rain and it did not rain for 3 ½ years. He called upon God to bring the rain, and it came. The sad part is that the leaders of our churches don’t believe it. Recently we have been visited with a record number of tornados entire small cities have been wiped out, but amazingly most of the people survived. The number of deaths was surprisingly low. In one town, only a church was left standing. Today’s pastor will say that this is not an “act of God,” because it does not fit the image they have of “their God.”
God is unchanging. The God who brought down the walls of Jericho, is the same God who allowed the tsunami to hit Japan in 2011. Nothing happens in this world that God does not cause or allow to happen. Contrary to popular opinion, God controls everything about this Earth, including the weather. This is spelled out again and again in the Bible, but most Christians refuse to accept that as the fact, it is.

Revelation 7: 2. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

The four angels mentioned in verse 1, the ones who are being commanded by the fifth angel here, represent God’s power over the four corners of the world, normally named North, East, South, and West. Referencing the fact that God is all powerful, and omnipresent no matter where you might find yourself.

3. Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

The servants of God are His angels. Remember the war that was going on in Heaven between the one God and the freelance angels of that time. Sealing means the seven spirits of God have had their time with them. The souls of those angels had been sanctified and are pure and committed to serving the one God.

4. And I heard the number of them, which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

The scripture that follows is a listing of those who had been sanctified in each tribe of Israel.
There are two problems in the naming of the tribes. One, the tribe of Dan is missing from the list, as is the tribe of Ephraim, which was named after the second son of Joseph. Two, there is a tribe of Joseph, the tribe that would have been named after Joseph, was split in two and named after Joseph’s sons Manasseh and Ephraim. Levi, which is named, was an invisible tribe. Levites were to be priests of God and were not to be recognized as a tribe. Manasseh was to replace Joseph and Ephraim was to replace Levi, thereby making 12 tribes. This draws to question the knowledge of the author, although I know from experience that one can be well versed, knowledgeable and in the Spirit of God and still make mistakes. This appears to be just that, a mistake.

5. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

The first thing to remember about this scripture is that there were no such things as accurate numbers as they were written in the Old Testament. The same is true of the Koine Greek of the New Testament. This list represents the author’s guesstimate of the number of souls from each tribe who had been sanctified at the time of Jesus. In other words, the number of angels who were walking among the tribes of Israel while Jesus was alive. The period during which the earth was not to be hurt represents the period of time God required to get these 144,000 angels committed to serving the one God, who were family members of the Children of Israel. That period of time was approximately from Moses until Jesus. The purpose of the scripture is not to give an accurate number for the angels in the children of Israel, but indicate that God had been hard at work within the Children of Israel and that he had, despite the problems He faced, God had been successful.