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A statement from Dr. Joshua Goodwin about his unexpected resignation from the Govenor's Natural Medicine Advisory Board.
"Thank you for reaching out and for your continued attention to the important work by the Natural Medicine Advisory Board. I truly appreciate your role in keeping the public informed.
That said, I’d prefer not to have an extended conversation about my resignation at this time. The board is doing vital work, and I don’t want to take any focus away from that or create any distractions.
Serving on the board was an honor, and I’m proud of any small contributions I may have made to the advisory process on natural medicines in Colorado. My decision to step down was entirely independent of the board’s work, its operations, or anyone involved. It was related to other policies implemented by Governor Polis and his administration that impact first responders—policies that I believe make it harder for them to perform their duties safely and effectively, which runs counter to the mission I’ve dedicated my career to.
I continue to hold the board and its members in the highest regard and believe they are making significant contributions to the field. I will truly miss the work and the great team I had the pleasure of working with. Most importantly, I do not want to distract from their work in any way.
Moving forward, I plan to focus on other endeavors where I can be of greater service to organizations that align more closely with my personal principles, specifically in supporting the military, first responders, and their families.
Thank you again for your interest and understanding.
All the best,
- Josh"
09/20/2024
Big news from the Colorado Natural Medicine Advisory Board as Dr Joshua Goodwin, the representative for military veterans has unexpectedly resigned from the board.
🌟 One Year of Regulated Psilocybin Therapy in Oregon 🌟
It’s been just over a year since Oregon launched its first regulated service centers for therapeutic psilocybin sessions.
Here is a transcript of an interview with Angie Allbee, manager of the Psilocybin Services Section at the Oregon Health Authority, as she provides an update on this program and shares its goals for the upcoming year.
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Q: Angie Albie is the manager of the Psilocybin Services section at the Oregon Health Authority. She joins us now with an update on Oregon's first in the nation program. Welcome back. Thank you. Happy to be here. So I mentioned some of those numbers. It all come from from the OHSU about licensure. One of the ones that has stood out to me and to a lot of people is the ratio here of about ten times more licensed facilitators than licensed service centers, even if some of those centers have to hire a lot of staff for big groups or for, a high number of high dose clients. Does that ratio make sense to you?
A: Well, thank you for the question. First of all, it's important to acknowledge that, the Oregon Psilocybin Services Act, which is now part of Oregon law, requires that the Oregon Health Authority that our section license any applicant that meets the licensing criteria. So we can't limit licenses and we really don't have control over the evolving ecosystem in that sense.
However, I think that because we've only begun licensing, you know, in the early spring of 2023 and really haven't, issued as many licenses in that early part of 2023, really starting to license more folks. That's where the latter part of the year and then the beginning of this year that we have a lot of of room for growth.
And there are a lot of folks interested in being licensed, and setting up a service center that are looking for property, looking for to be placed in a city or county that, they're able to be licensed and, and, and so I think that there's a lot of interest and I think that there's a lot of folks graduating from psilocybin facilitator training programs, in order to be licensed under this model.
And so I do think that, even if we have smaller service centers that don't serve as many clients, as far as group administration sessions, that we will see more service centers licensed that are offering larger spaces with group administration sessions that could lead to a need for more licensed facilitators. So I think that because we're still a very early and new, growing ecosystem within the regulated model, that we have a lot to see in the coming years.
In order to truly decide, you know, if we have adequate numbers and if the ratios, you know, are meeting the needs and not exceeding, although, as you noted today, if you don't have the authority to to change that business ecosystem, your authority, it has to do with making sure that everybody who needs to be licensed, everything that needs to be licensed is.
Q: And then the free market, I guess, will sort out the rest?
A: That's true. And it's really important to recognize that while we license and regulate licenses, we adopt minimal requirements in our administrative rules and conduct a lot of community outreach and, you know, provide presentations and materials. This is a growing ecosystem or industry. And just like other businesses, these folks are getting set up around the state and there's a lot of interest in these services.
And so, you know, it's really up to these licensees as small business owners to set their operating guidelines and to make business decisions that are going to, lead to the success of their models. And while a lot of that has to do with, you know, our focus on creating more equitable licensing fees over time and ensuring that our administrative rules meet the needs and the requirements for public health and safety without creating too much administrative burden, that's unnecessary and really figuring out that balance.
You know, really these are small businesses. And so, I just want to mention we have collaborated closely with the Office of Small Business Assistance because we're not a business agency. We're a health focused agency, and we're really focused on clients accessing services, and meeting public health goals under this model. And so the Office of Small Business Assistance has supported us in conducting, efforts for, to put on for folks that needed information that we're thinking about setting up businesses.
And then we've created an ops business resource guide for those folks that are either already licenses or considering being licensed so that they understand other requirements, whether that's only requirements, OSHA tax filing, employment information. And so we want folks to be successful. And again, a lot of this work is outside of the licensing and regulatory functions.
Q: We've heard that individual sessions can be upwards of $1,000, sometimes significantly more.
A: It's a hugely important question because it gets to the exact equity and accessibility issues you were just talking about.
Q: I mean, basically, what are we looking at? A system that could primarily be a luxury for people who have lots of money to spend?
A: So I think that it's important to talk about our social equity plan requirements. We require all licensees to submit a social equity plan, when they submit their application for licensure. And this social equity plan acknowledges systemic inequities and, really sets goals. These are licensees setting their own goals and ways that they'll contribute to social equity. So while some service centers might have higher prices than others, the social equity plans allow for, philanthropy, to subsidize cost of services or completely cover those services, creating sliding scales and also ensuring that, there's a lot of information being shared about, ensuring that culturally responsive and appropriate services are being provided to clients coming in the door for services.
Q: So is there any way, though, for you to see if the service centers are actually following through? From my, my understanding is that lawmakers have not required that you ask how much. For example, each client costs, each service costs, how much clients are paying or how many are getting scholarships. So will you even be able to track that?
A: Well, we don't have the authority to set or regulate the cost of products or services. However, the social equity plans have to be evaluated every year, upon renewal of the license. And they have to these licensees have to determine and evaluate how they've reached their goals and, maybe update their plans. Those are part of our that requirement as part of our administrative rules.
But to your point, we don't have the authority to set to regulate the cost of products or services, and insurance doesn't cover at this time, which I think as we continue to build a continuum of care and we have providers and physicians referring folks into services and following up providers following up with clients after services. And we continue to build this, you know, hopefully there's a discussion and more opportunities, for insurance coverage of services over time.
Q: One issue that I've heard about is frustrations on the part of Service Center owners about advertising. They have to, for example, make sure that fewer than 30% of people viewing any ad that they put up, are under the age of 21. Basically, that that the vast majority of people who are likely to see the ads are going to be old enough to be able to, to take part in these services.
I have to say that I see a ton of billboards for cannabis shops, which has the same age restriction. Do they just have more lenient rules?
A: So I can't speak to the cannabis industry and the regulation of that advertising. What I can say is that this requirement is important because in the whereas four, seven, five in the law, that created this regulated model, there's a prohibition no one under the age of 21 years of, you know, 1 in 121 years of age can be a licensee or can be at the licensed premises.And so because of that prohibition, I think it's really important to, ensure that we're not incentivizing folks under the age of 21. You know, and that's been a part of our rulemaking process. We sort of took that requirement from work that has already been done previously in other industries. You know, as kind of an accepted standard.
And it's just requiring that those licensees, work with whoever their advertising companies or vendors are to ensure that, they're taking steps and can demonstrate that they're not marketing to or advertising to, minors or folks under 21.
Q: Angie, Albie, thanks very much. Thank you. Have a great day. You too. Angie Albie is a manager of the Psilocybin Services section at the Oregon Health Authority. It's been just over a year since Oregon's first regulated service centers began providing supervised psilocybin trips to clients. Coming up after a short break......
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